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Benedict Cumberbatch, Michael Fassbender and Gillian Welch

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Benedict Cumberbatch, Michael Fassbender and Gillian Welch

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Just in case you missed this floating around the interwebz this morning: the trailer for Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy. I'll sum up the cast of this movie so you'll know not to blink when you watch it: Gary Oldman, Colin Firth, Benedict Cumberbatch, Mark Strong, Tom Hardy, John Hurt (& etc.). Don't blink.

I may have mentioned (several hundred times) how much I like the novel and the 1970s BBC miniseries. But this one looks pretty spectacular--and beautifully cast. I didn't think I could really accept anybody but Alec Guinness as Smiley, but Gary Oldman seems to have inherited the commemorative Guinness frames, so I'm prepared to be convinced. I recently listened to an audio version of it in the car, and I got worried that they would cut the character BC plays down to nothing. But that also doesn't seem to be the case.

And, if case you haven't seen the trailer for A Dangerous Method, here it is. This movie stars Michael Fassbender as Carl Jung and Viggo Mortensen as Sigmund Freud. No. Really. And Keira Knightly as Sabine Spilrein. The movie looks slightly OTT (there is caning), but the story is OTT, and fascinating, so I have hope.

Both boys are in outdoor camps this week, so I have been spending a lot of time in the car delivering them and fetching them back. It has cut into my work/writing time, but it's also given me a chance to listen to Smiley's People and the first new Gillian Welch album in 8 years. It is awesome--it was worth the wait.

  • I know what you mean about Guiness's Smiley, but I think Oldman could do it. He's one of those actors, like De Niro, who can make you forget who he really is. I'm looking forward to seeing this :)
    • Yeah, I agree about Gary Oldman--i think he can pull it off! And he looks great in this trailer. I can't wait to see this movie. It's supposed to come out 9/16--I hope it doesn't take weeks to get to my town!
  • Hello. :)
  • (no subject) - frackin_sweet
    • oh my goodness, I have SO MANY FEELINGS about this cast that I don't know how it's all going to fit in one movie! I love the hairdo too (though I admit it took me a couple of times through to identify Tom Hardy). Still, very excited that he and Cumberbatch are in movie again together--if they stick close the book they should have a few scenes together!

      I wasn't a big fan of the Keira Knightly Eliabeth Bennet, but she looks like she's going to be great in this!

      • (no subject) - frackin_sweet
        • Yes!! The LeCarre style is pretty hard to imitate, so I can't imagine much book 'verse fic--but maybe the film will open that up. And there is a M/M love story at the heart of the book--don't know how much they'll play it up in the movie....

          But not to mention the RPS--people have been wanting Cumberbatch/Hardy fic for a long time--this may be the moment!
          • (no subject) - frackin_sweet
            • Yay! I hope you enjoy it!

              We are going to the beach the week after next too, and I'm thinking about what books to bring...maybe Kavalier and Clay?

              • (no subject) - frackin_sweet
                • Yours looks fantastic! I love the English Civil War--you'll have to let me know how it is. And I love a good biography--got anything good in mind?

                  I'm hoping Kavalier and Clay is good--I read The Yiddish Policeman's Union earlier this year and loved it--people say the K & C is even better. I also have Andre Dubus's Townie, but that might be a little harsh for the beach. And the fantasy novel linaerys was talking about, The Steel Remains. Cross your fingers I get to read even one!
  • Ben is in so much of the trailer, it's a relief, as he didn't even make it into the War Horse first trailer, with a boy as popular as Ben is now, it's a crime not to use him.

    But I'd be excited about this film anyway, I love Le'Carre, reminds me to pick up his current book.

    Thanks for the Dangerous Method trailer, I had not heard of this before.
    • I know, I was relieved to see so much of him (looking so good) in the trailer--the character could've just been cut to shreds.

      The War horse trailer seemed to be HORSE, HORSE, HORSE, BOY, HORSE, OLD GUY TALKING, HORSE, HORSE. I don't know the play, so I can't tell if that's what the movie will be like too.

      I've been on a binge of LeCarre's older novels, but I've enjoyed some of the newer ones too--is this one supposed to be good?

      A Dangerous Method looks like blast, I have to say!
    • Well the story is sort of from the horses point of view, I am not a speilberg fan, but will see because of benedict. And I would love to see the play, I think it would be far more moving than any film version.

      I'm not certain if it's any good, persay, but I did like his early work, thought I would give the new a try.
      • I would love to see the play too--the stuff w/ puppets sounds amazing.

        I've read some of his post-Smiley novels--A Perfect Spy is excellent, and I enjoyed The Constant Gardener (and the movie), but I've lost track of the past few--maybe I should check this one out....
        • The last ones are tiresome; but if you've missed on A Small Town in Germany and The Naive and Sentimental Lover, go for them, they are brilliant.
    • They should have cast Ben as the horse. Shergar's looks and all that.
  • I'm not familiar with the "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" novel, but the trailer looks... wow. Impressive. And the cast? So many of my favourite actors in one productions... just wow 8D Thank you so much for posting this! 8D
    • The novel is a fantastic 1970s spy novel (based on real events). But the casting in this movie is out of this world, isn't it? I cannot wait to see it!
      • I guess I'll have to add the novel to my to-read list XD I'm a fan of this genre so there is a high chance I'll enjoy reading it!

        And yes, the casting is brilliant! I wonder how they managed to fit all the awesome in one movie! Must be real talent X3
  • And, if case you haven't seen the trailer for A Dangerous Method, here it is.

    Oh. my. God.

    I need to see this. Didn't even know it existed. And, well, the whole psychoanalysis stuff was seriously OTT at the beginning, so no surprises here.

    And then...

    I'll sum up the cast of this movie so you'll know not to blink when you watch it: Gary Oldman, Colin Firth, Benedict Cumberbatch, Mark Strong, Tom Hardy, John Hurt (& etc.). Don't blink.

    Yeah, that too, it seems. Thanks! :-)
    • You are very welcome. I saw that MF was playing Carl Jung in a movie, and didn't think much about it--then when I saw the trailer I realized it was this story, and OMG--cannot wait! (and yes, the movie could be very OTT and still not live up to actual events).

      (I'm thinking of reading the non-fiction book it's based on, just, you know, to catch up :))

      And, yeah, TTSS too!
      • I'm thinking of reading the non-fiction book it's based on, just, you know, to catch up :)

        I saw it in a bookshop today and very nearly bought it. Right now I really want to finish two other books, though, so I'll restrain myself for a while. But I think I'll read it, too.
        • lol--I couldn't find it in the bookstore today, so ordered it from Amazon1 Not sure when I'll get a chance to read it, but we're going to the beach in a few weeks, so I live in hope :)
  • Okay, now I want to see both of those movies. A LOT.
    • IKR? SO MUCH!! Benedict with his ginger bangs seems kind of worth the price of admission--but then all those other guys as well? *faints*

      And I think I've been pretty upfront about my feelings about MF lately *g*

      Not to mention that both are actually fascinating stories!
  • *shivers with antici-pation!*
  • Tinker Tailor not too tinkered with then?

    Is BC playing Peter Guillam? He'll do it very well.

    And crikey, I was all for not even bothering, but this looks AMAZING in a good way: sharp and bleak.
    • Re: Tinker Tailor not too tinkered with then?

      lol! it looks pretty true to the book, doesn't it? Don't know how they'll fit the plot into ~2hrs, but I'm willing to watch them try.

      Yes, BC is Peter Guillam, which seems excellent casting; Gary Oldman is Smiley; Colin Firth is Bill Hayden and Tom Hardy is Ricky Tarr. All of which seem fabulous choices. The only one that seems a bit iffy to me is Mark Strong as Jim Prideaux--but that may be because the last thing I saw him in was The Eagle.

      I was going to see it no matter what, but the trailer actually makes it look worth seeing.
  • ... and the Freud/Jung movie looks seriously interesting too. Written by Christopher Hampton then?
    • It does, doesn't it? I wasn't quite expecting it to be that story.

      But yes, Christopher Hampton wrote the script, off a play by somebody else, off a non-fiction book (which I'm now tempted to read!).

      It could be a good fall!
  • I'll sum up the cast of this movie so you'll know not to blink when you watch it: Gary Oldman, Colin Firth, Benedict Cumberbatch, Mark Strong, Tom Hardy, John Hurt (& etc.).

    Nggggg. So basically, it's missing Helen Mirren, Judi Dench, and Indira Varma in order to potentially be Carmarthen's perfect movie. EEEEEEEE, tense spy movies full of awesome actors!

    I am...not so optimistic about A Dangerous Method, but I am never optimistic about kink in mainstream media, or about Freud. :-/
    • Nggg indeed! There's a sad dearth of female characters in the novel, but there's one show stealing scene with a character worthy of Judi Dench--so you never know!

      I can't wait.

      It's very hard for kink not to look ridiculous in mainstream media, I agree...And I expect it will have the usual sensationalistic, anti-intellectual and unsympathetic portrayal of Freud. But still--I'm gonna have to see it, I think. Would see it even without MF and VM, to tell the truth....
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